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'First, a note of heartfelt appreciation for Joan Walsh of Salon. Her moving post on Charles Sherrod - in defense of his wife, Shirley - provided the inspiration required to dust off my Google skills.'
Video of Mr. Sherrod: "We Must Stop The White Man And His Uncle Toms ..."
Seeded on Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:26 PM EDT
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Folks may want to think twice before making saints of Charles and Shirley Sherrod.
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#1 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:31 PM EDTYou don't REALLY expect an intelligent reply to this do you grim? i mean seriously if obama can get away with "Rev" God damn america" for 20 years, why shouldn't Mrs. Sharrod get away with having a husband with the same kind of thinking?
"We must not be afraid to vote black..." -direct quote from video.
Hmm, i thought this didn't happen! I thought this was a MYTH.
/sigh
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#2 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:56 PM EDT"We must not be afraid to vote black..." -direct quote from video.
Jeff, maybe you can tell me what is wrong with that statement? I know, I know. If a White person had said "we must not be afraid to vote white", we'd be all over him. That is what you are going to say, right?
Well, not so fast. What if Blacks controlled the govt and stole elctions. If a white person said it under that context, he'd be trying to state the following:
1. White folks should vote for their own if they believe that candidate can do the job and not just vote for the black pol because he has flashy ads. Or that the White politician cannot hold a seat of power.
2. By turning out in large numbers, it would negate the ability of the Black controlled government from stealing the election.
Under those circumstances, would you say that White speaker was being a racist? Or was he trying to get the other whites to think long and hard about how they vote? Made you think twice didn't it?
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You should work for Eric Holder with logic like that.
Why, thank you. But, you haven't really tried to counter my argument.
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I don't want to counter your argument because I think its as nonsensical as the thinking behind the New Black Panther debacle.
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Grim:
The truth shall make us free.
"set us free"... just messin' w ya, Grim;-D
Besides, everyone has issues;-P
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Actually the truth shall make you free is the more accurate translation. Not that it matters, but I've done a bit of bible study. But I appreciate your joke, Adad.
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Grim:
Yep.... Mr Smarty;-D Nope, not at all. Mine's worn out o-8-) hehehe. Yay, Grim
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So GP, are you saying there has never been any instance of white politicians using the fear of Blacks taking power to turn out white people to the polls? Are you saying those politicians never ran racially charged political ads depicting blacks as violent menaces so as to gin up the fear in the whites?
Also, it is known that there has been actual voter intimidation that takes place in many of these rural southern counties. There has been a long history of it. It's real easy to take the tack that Riehl takes in his blog. As long as you are willing to forget the actual history of black voting in this country, especially in the south.
I'm amazed at the new meme that is circulating now. That is to equate what a black person says when he refers to actual history as being equal to centuries of actual white racism. Well, it may not be much, but I will point out that fallacy every time I see it raise its ugly head.
That is what Charles Sherrod is talking about. He's talking about turning to overt race baiting to get your way in an election. Jesse Helms did it and so have many others. Charles Sherrord isn't even being close to being racist when he said "we have to stop the white man and his uncle toms from stealing elections". He isn't racist because he is speaking the truth - the poeple who steal the lections ar White men and their sympathizers. I personally don't cater to the "uncle tom" term, but I udnerstand why he uses it.
If anyone would like, we can debate what is real racism and what isn't.
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#3 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:06 PM EDTI'm glad you're so skilled at reading other people's minds, Spox. To the untrained among us, Charles Sherrod seems like a bitter old race-baiter.
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I'm glad you're so skilled at reading other people's minds, Spox. To the untrained among us, Charles Sherrod seems like a bitter old race-baiter.
Not from where I stand. You still haven't said whether actuall election stealing has taken place.
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Indeed, Creepy... and you seem like a bitter, young race-baiter...
Just like ScottS... who sadly, is no longer amongst us...
Saaaaaaaaaaay... why did Rockin' Dan Riehl edit the tape right there?
What did he NOT want us to see before that bit?
He won't reply, SpoxLogic, because he doesn't have a real answer...
OK , what does that have to do with his wife who was dismissed for a video that was edited by the right wing media to show a racist speech by HER that never happened ?
Is this an excuse ?
More race baiting , Reaper ?
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#4 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:09 PM EDTOK , what does that have to do with his wife who was dismissed for a video that was edited by the right wing media to show a racist speech by HER that never happened ?
Birds of a feather...
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OK , what does that have to do with his wife who was dismissed for a video that was edited by the right wing media to show a racist speech by HER that never happened ?
Birds of a feather...
So Grim, you are admitting that the whole tea party movement is racist then? Remember Mark Williams of the Tea Party Express and that now famous "satirical" letter to Abe Lincoln.
But, where do we stop with that "birds of a feather..." line. You could come back and say the NAACP is racist becuase of Sherrod, and I could counter that the GOP is racist because of their acceptance of the Tea Party into the Party (a la Rep Bachmann (MN)).
And on and on...
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While you're at it, please tell me what was so redeeming about the full video of Shirley Sherrod. She called those of us who oppose health care racists among other things. It wasn't exactly a message of togetherness.
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So Grim, you are admitting that the whole tea party movement is racist then? Remember Mark Williams of the Tea Party Express and that now famous "satirical" letter to Abe Lincoln.
Of course, you got me. I admit the whole TEA Party is comprised of racists. /sarcasm
What I meant by that statement is you generally don't marry someone who doesn't share your views. Just like you don't sit in a church for 20 years without sharing the views of your pastor.
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As usual... Creepy is pretending there is some sort of equivalency at play here in the race issue...
Like an equal number of whites versus blacks, and an equal number of racially motivated incidents on both sides...
Race in this country is a painfully complicated issue and one well worth exploring, and we will find, I suspect 'racism' on both sides of the divide, but NOT in the grotesquely simplified, one-for-one, way Creepy is pushing here.
You are seeming to imply that Edith Bunker is a racist just because Archie Bunker was. I *strongly* object to that line of reasoning!
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Ok then how about this. Sarah Palin is a traitor because he husband was a member of an anti-American organization that called for rebellion against the United States.
This make it better for you?
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What I meant by that statement is you generally don't marry someone who doesn't share your views. Just like you don't sit in a church for 20 years without sharing the views of your pastor.
By that logic, then it's impossible for a child growing up in a racist home to ever NOT be racist? Or are you the expert at reading what lies in the hearts and minds of other people.
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#5 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:36 PM EDTNonsense. You choose your spouse in America, but excluding adoption, you don't choose your children.
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No spox, it would seem you would be the expert in reading minds, as you have so correctly in the past 5 posts.
/shakes head
NOW we're not only racist if we disagree about obama's policies, we're racist if we try and surmise that "birds of a feather, the company you keep, you are who you hang around with etc etc ad nauseum. is that correct spox?
notice i asked, i didn't use my esp powers on you.
Because, i had ZERO problem with that same analogy when it worked for Dems concerning bush, cheney, rumsfield and rove.
oh, but that doesn't count cause they're WHITE, right?
/and yes this time i am using my esp powers.
//facepalm
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Grim stated in part:
Nonsense. You choose your spouse in America, but excluding adoption, you don't choose your children
Duh! My response was to the mention of Obam i nJeremiah Wright's church. Your reasoning is that just being in the presence of Wright must mean tha tObama shared his ideals.
Jeffstated in part:
NOW we're not only racist if we disagree about obama's policies, we're racist if we try and surmise that "birds of a feather, the company you keep, you are who you hang around with etc etc ad nauseum. is that correct spox?
Where in my statement did I accuse anyone of being racist? Nowhere. BTW, when you try to equate some bombastic statements by blacks with the institutionalized white racism that exists, you really insult a lot of people. When white folks start getting hung from trees just for looking askance at a black person, we can start talking about equivalency.
Until then, I won't allow that meme to go unchallenged.
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lmbo. are you KIDDING?!
@2.2 Under those circumstances, would you say that White speaker was being a racist?
@4.2 So Grim, you are admitting that the whole tea party movement is racist then?
@5 By that logic, then it's impossible for a child growing up in a racist home to ever NOT be racist?
with the exception of 3.2 it's ALL you've talked about!
That's all the left has when defending obama, "you're racist!"
It's SOOO disingenuous, it really is.
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You do know that video was edited, correct?
Ms. Sherrod said she was pressed to resign after the video whipped around the Web. But she said the clip was misleading. According to Ms. Sherrod and people who have seen the full video, she went on to say in her speech that she had learned from working with the farmer that all people must overcome their prejudices.
After seeing the full video, the N.A.A.C.P. said Tuesday that it had been “snookered” into believing Ms. Sherrod had acted with bias.
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#6 - Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:19 PM EDTYes, I suspect Creepy knows...
Creepy, like many other righties, is merely trying to save face and lay down a smoke screen for Acorn Andy whilst he runs for cover...
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How was the NAACP snookered when they had the full video the entire time? Why did they call for her resignation when they should have known what was in the full video?
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How was the NAACP snookered when they had the full video the entire time?
They didn't have it the entire time, they retracted after seeing the full and unedited video for the first time...
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Super: Don't play that way, this was recorded by a third party at one of the naacp funtions. They said that BS to cover their butts. And she was forced to resign by the WH before the edited version was even released...
The whole mess seems made up. Like a magician makes you look one way while he sets up his trick...
Do your research.
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#7 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:21 AM EDTAnd she was forced to resign by the WH before the edited version was even released...
Yeah, as if I'm going to take the word of a network that lies on a regular basis...
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Tell me which network doesn't slant the news to fit their agenda.
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Tell me which network doesn't slant the news to fit their agenda.
Actually Grim *most* networks don't slant their news. It is just sad that you are so used to FOX doing it that you assume everyone else does it. Honestly, most network news is pretty unbiased. FOX is the exception, not the rule.
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I saw this article Grim and decided against posting it for the exact reason of the kind of comments you're getting on here. Good luck to you with these theologians.
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#9 - Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDTI'll take my lumps if I have to, but I sure as hell won't let them silence me.
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